How dumb is it to deport illegal immigrants?

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A study by the Rand Corporation, conducted by Kevin McCarthy and Georges Vernez, came to the conclusion that immigrants do not have a negative effect on the earnings and the employment opportunities of native-born Americans.[2]

An increasing number of banks contend that providing undocumented residents with mortgages helps revitalize local communities, as they buy and rebuild run-down properties. According to the executive vice president of Banco Popular, the bank has found no higher rate of default in home loans to illegal immigrants than any other market the company serves.[3]

Taxation Professor of Law Francine Lipman writes in a 2006 paper in the peer-reviewed journal Tax Lawyer of the American Bar Association Section of Taxation that the belief that undocumented migrants are exploiting the US economy and cost more in services than they contribute to the economy is “undeniably false”.
Furthermore, Lipman asserts that “undocumented immigrants actually contribute more to public coffers in taxes than they cost in social services” and “contribute to the U.S. economy through their investments and consumption of goods and services; filling of millions of essential worker positions resulting in subsidiary job creation, increased productivity and lower costs of goods and services; and unrequited contributions to Social Security, Medicare and unemployment insurance programs.”[4]

The Internal Revenue Service issues an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) regardless of immigration status because both resident and nonresident aliens may have Federal tax return and payment responsibilities under the Internal Revenue Code. Federal tax law prohibits the IRS from sharing data with other government agencies including the INS. In 2006 1.4 million people used ITIN when filing taxes, of which more than half were illegal aliens.[5]
copy and pasted from wikipedia. forgot to put that sorry.
sorry shawnquiva mexicans arent the only ones.

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    May 4, 2011 at 12:10 am

    If we let criminal aliens do as they please why bother enforcing any other laws that actual citizens break?

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    who cares
    May 4, 2011 at 12:22 am

    Thanks for the info. Where did you copy and paste all this information from?

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    May 4, 2011 at 12:35 am

    Yes, the three illegal aliens plotting to blow up Fort Dix were an economic asset indeed.

    Secure the border first, then we can discuss “amnesty” or “immigration reform”

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    May 4, 2011 at 12:35 am

    It is not dumb at all! They broke the law. America is a nation of laws. If you give them a pass, you should give all criminals a pass!

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    Nonsense Pelosi
    May 4, 2011 at 12:42 am

    Not as dumb as letting them stay, showing them amnesty and mooching off of us.

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    Grown Man
    May 4, 2011 at 12:47 am

    I have no problem with illegal immigrants. It’s not they’re fault their country is so corrupt that it can’t generate any wealth. If you believe you can succeed through hard work, you are a contribution to this country. Mexicans know more about the american dream than we do.

    But you do not come here to be a parasite on productive society. Nobody should be able to demand money from their fellow Americans so they can sit on their ass and pretend to be looking for a job.

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    May 4, 2011 at 1:45 am

    Why do you only quote liberal sources. Why not look at what is actually going on. They cost us billions in health care each year. The gobble up welfair moneys like it was candy. The tax benifit of the few that do pay taxes doesnt amount to enough money to support even half of them. As far a jobs that can not be proven as our people are not given the chance to work them. Besides less than 2% of the illegal immigrants work for less than minum wage.

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    May 4, 2011 at 2:04 am

    they’ve broken our laws and that’s why they’re being deported!

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    May 4, 2011 at 3:02 am

    My favorite number you sited was the 1.4 million immigrants with ITN- 1/2 of those being illegal aliens.

    Considering there are 12 million illegal aliens in the United States of America and approx 700,000.0 filed taxes that just leaves 11 million 300,000 more to apply for ITN and file their taxes.

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    May 4, 2011 at 3:21 am


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    May 4, 2011 at 3:37 am

    I think this non-issue is going to propel some real caveman into office in 2008. The GOP strategists are brilliant. People are really dumb and uninformed.

    There wouldn’t be a problem with any immigration if American business was undermining our economy by cutting jobs, destroying employees pensions and benefits and outsourcing. But because that’s the real agenda the GOP need to blame someone, because they can’t face the complicity of Business (including their own president and his cronies) in destroying the earning potential of all Americans.

    No, they shouldn’t be allowed to come in illegally. But who are you going to punish? Them, or the businesses that thrive on their presence?

    How about a real answer to this, oh nativists?

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    May 4, 2011 at 4:29 am

    It’s a mucked up situation – I have no love for law breakers but I think the hatred the right has for them is misguided. We need rational solutions not emotional ones.

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    May 4, 2011 at 5:08 am

    So.. you have 1 study that says they don’t. While the other 90000 say they do?

    Sure.. let’s go with the 1.

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    May 4, 2011 at 5:19 am

    Well first did it occur to you that the Rand corporation is in the
    business community’s back pocket?, and they put out these statistics to do precisely what you’re doing here. I know what these people are costing the health care system, I have family in health care and more and more hospitals are closing, (California is almost in crisis mode) from providing health care for the waves of these people, and their 3-4-5-6 whatever kids. Not to mention the costs to the legal system, and other services, and the depression of wages their being here has brought. So the Rand corp. can say whatever it wants but I know first hand it’s a bunch of BS

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    May 4, 2011 at 5:35 am

    Do you people even know what you’re talking about?
    Where do you get your information to be able to say that illegals come here to mooch off of us? How you can you base your opinion on heresay and rumors?
    Do you actually personally KNOW any illegals??
    Have you ever been in one of those countries to see face to face how they live? It’s always the folks that do not possess enough valid information or actual have had one one experience with an illegal that have the harshest things to say.
    You need to learn alot more about them before you can make statements such as they are ‘moochers!’ That’s one of the stupidest things I’ve heard as an argument against them.
    They WANT to work!
    I knew illegals( now legal permanent residents or U.S. citizens) who were paying income taxes b/c they had a working permit with a SS# given to them by the IRS.
    They came here to work (and are DAMN hard workers) and paid their way in every aspect of the word-NEVER went on public assistance for ANYTHING.
    If you were ever actually in one of those countries and saw how hard it is to make a living, if you ever actually befriended an illegal, you wouldn’t be saying those harsh things.
    You would actually be educated on the economy and welfare of those countries.
    Work is hard to come by, in most cases you must have a H.S. diploma in order to even get a job, then you’ll end up earning $ 3 a DAY, and when you go shopping for necessities you can hardly afford to buy a $ 6 can of coffee or a $ 5 bottle of Suave shampoo. Most people use public buses for transportation since they can’t afford a car(cars are even more expensive there!)
    Not only do they earn so little, but to purchase even the basic necessities is outrageous!
    I know this information from people I know who live in El Salvador. And yes, I’ve been there also so I have two accurate sources of information-from my own experience and from actually KNOWING people residing in one of those countries.
    They help this country more than many of you realize.
    Deporting all 12 million of them is not only one of the worst decisions, but is also highly impossible! Who is going to be able to FIND them all?
    But if those of you that are pushing for deportation as some “miracle” actually get your wish, then and only then will you realize what an asset they were/are to this country and then you’ll be on here crying about what a mistake that was.

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