Have smokers become the new plague to avoid?

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With the most recent smoking bans,and laws against smokers, even in smoke shops, sometimes your own home and car,and the fact buisness make the smoker stand out side in the cold, heat, rain, snow what ever the weather is, and sometimes not even in a weather proff smoking hut,all the law that make us worse than second class citizens.
The fact is tobacco is a legal product, that they will never ban the sale and manufature of, because of all the tax dollars taken in from the sale,, So if its about health why force them to be out in the weather, or if it’s not about health and it’s about money why do we stand by and let this happen? Are smokers the new Plauge or the cash cow ?
Sounds like jh is just toltally un American
dofishpee, why should the government intrude any more than they do?
sassyk your right I have never seen any one smoke a cigarret and get into a car and drive and kill people
Tom T, I seriously hope your joking with the list of things smoking causes, at first I thought’he has really been co-opted but I am sure you jest..
Note To cjw2004d and anyone who would suggest that smokers should also have no healthcare covergae, see how we are hated, what if race car drivers had no healthcare covergage and airplane pilots had no life insurance because of there life style?
You un American hypocrits
So they want to ban smoking . because of health issues, but allow it to be legal and manufatured, , is there thoughts , well if there gonna smoke we might as well make some money off there hardship?

  1. Reply
    bobby d
    July 17, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    smoke all you want as long as I dont have to breathe it

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    July 17, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    This week they come in second after Immigrants.

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    July 17, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    I hope smoking laws only become tighter and make it less easy to suck cancer in or around me. I wish they would jack up cancer stick taxes to 10,000%, and give all the money to health care. i wish it was legal to deny any smoker health care insurance outright… do you get a sense of how I feel about this issue?

    Un American? How about how smokers violate my rights?

    If you want to smoke, do it in your own dwelling. Don’t smoke in your car and roll the window down. Wear a little smoker bubble…. I don’t care….

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    Mopar Muscle Gal
    July 17, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    they are the plague AND the cash cow

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    Lori B
    July 17, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    Smokers have been considered the plague for a long time now. It is helping to decrease the number of smokers, they are becoming fewer and fewer. I just recently quit.

    One thing I have never understood though is how they can blame lung cancer on cigaretes when we have all of this pollution floating around in our air as well, how do you differentiate whether the cancer was caused from the environment or cigarette smoke? People who have never smoked get lung cancer too.

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    July 17, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Next are those with a bmi over 30. Then watch the screaming.

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    July 17, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    You can smoke all you want. The issue is second hand smoke. Why must I partake in your sin?

    I suggest any smoker go see the Body Worlds exhibit and look at the lung of a normal person and the black lung of a smoker. You can see the tar build up. It’s nasty.

    For your sake and your family and your children

    *reply to email and tax dollars….sorry guess I didn’t read your question thoroughly…so yes, cash cow. And yes, alcohol is worse.

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    July 17, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    Tobacco is the cash cow. The new plague is the liberals forcing all of these stupid rules and/or bans on the people to satisfy their control freak problem.

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    July 17, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    I don’t care if you want to smoke 10 packs a day, but I don’t want to be smoking them with you. If you’re indoors, the smoke is going to spread throughout the room so other people are going to have to breathe it. Having a non-smoking section in a restaurant makes as much sense as having a non-peeing section in a pool. I don’t want to infringe upon your right to smoke but I also don’t want you to infringe on my right to breathe fresh air.

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    July 17, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Yes we are the scourge of the earth. But they do make money of us don’t they? I myself want to start a ban against alcohol. It kills more people a lot faster than cigarettes. I cannot stand the smell of it. It makes me sick. When I get on a plane, and people around me are drinking, I get violently ill. But I can’t get away from it. And, when is the last time you saw a nicotined up driver kill an innocent pedestrian?

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    July 17, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    I smoke because I enjoy it. Everyone in my family has had cancer, so I know its inevitable… why not enjoy simple pleasures like smoking on my porch or coffee and a cigarette. I appreciate that not everybody gets the same joy as I do out of smoking, but I really don’t think its fair for people to suggest we should be taxed 10,000% on our vice when you most likely have your own…. they should tax your SUV, or your child sweat shop clothing from target, or your strip club addiction. I could care less what you do, but don’t act like my personal choice to harm myself is somehow your problem.

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    July 17, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    Both….They are new plague and the cash cow….Christians are next plague, but that’s a whole other topic.

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    Tom T
    July 17, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    Understanding the real dangers of smoking will answer your question. Here are just a few of the things it causes:

    1. Global warming.
    2. Extinction of the three toes cactus womper.
    3. Hurricanes and tornado’s.
    4. It can melt ice cream from a mile or more away.
    5. It causes illegals to come to this country.
    6. There would be no war ever, if there were no smokers.
    7. It warps wood of your deck and causes hemorrhoids..
    8. Runs the battery down on your car.
    9. Drives non-smokers crazy even if you are a polite smoker.
    10. …and that last reason is probably why I continue smoking!

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    Heather S1
    July 18, 2011 at 12:22 am

    I understand that if it’s a health issue then they should outlaw them, but since as you said they don’t want to loose that tax dollar they can’t have it both ways! I’m not a smoker and because of smoking my mom has lung cancer and emphysema and my daughter will too if she doesn’t stop right now. But I see both sides of this issue.

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    July 18, 2011 at 12:50 am

    The question I will answer is: Are smokers a plague, and is smoking itself a plague? Gasoline is the new cash cow.

    Look up the statistics for cigarette smoking related disease in my sources. This is a very costly addiction – I would suggest that the health costs for both smokers and non-smokers who are exposed to second hand smoke FAR outweigh the revenue from tobacco taxes, and would even if you doubled the taxes.

    I could be draconian and suggest that health care for smoking related diseases be banned for all people who ever smoked. I won’t suggest this, though. I will suggest that there be a phased ban on tobacco products.

    Factiods: 1. Cigarette smoke contains hydrogen cyanide. 2. It is the cause of 90% of the deaths from lung cancer for men, and about 80% of the lung cancer deaths among women. 3. Cigarette smoke contains many other poisons, and carcinogens. 4. Smoking is also a major cause of heart disease. 5. Despite serious efforts to curb it, the danger of second hand smoke remains a problem of epic proportions in the USA.

    Sure, pollution very likely kills people, but we know that smoking (and exposure to second hand smoke) kills people, and roughly how many every year.

    Nevertheless, we come back to the fact that it is an addiction, and also that over 90% of regular smokers started before the age of 18. I think it should be treated as an addiction problem. My opinion, anyway.

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    July 18, 2011 at 1:45 am

    In the USA, society tend to give as much rights to individuals as possible. The limit of those individual rights ends when they infringe the rights of others.
    Smokers have the right to smoke, they do not have the right to expose others to the smoke.
    Why should anyone feel that he/she should have as much rights as he/she want, regardless of how his/her behavior affects the rights of others?

    If a smoker tells me that there are circumstances in which his smoking does not expose others, or that there are others who voluntarily expose themselves to his smoke, I would say that those circumstances should not be against the law.

    There would a problem if there are employees exposed to the smoke. Those employees are not in a position to object by the very fact that they are employees.

    The owner of the establishment is not under coercion and he can do whatever he wants.

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